My point exactly. Which is why something having to be relevant will ultimately cause nothing but issues. It's like trying to censor things: where do we stop when it comes to deciding what people should see and hear. Just because one person, or group of people thinks something is offensive or not for the betterment of the species/society/internet or whatever, it doesn't mean they're right or that others should be denied the right to have their own opinion and say in the matter.

Filters would be a great idea, but how do you make it so they define someones idea of relevant? There have to be parameters. How many filters will it take to get what is considered relevant?

I must have missed something here, I thought reply #42 should have put this thread to rest. 

Guess again! Just kidding, Philly.

You're right. The decision has been made. I'm off to shoot stuff in the face.

The point is...these are NOT Gamer threads being imposed upon WC....they are general off-topic threads.

This is NOT a case of a "How do I change the strength of my battleship class" [or some such] in exactly the same way as we [WC] are not posting "can't get my tabs to skin" on Sins.

Instead, a redefine of what/where GENERAL TOPICS turn up has been made.

And if you look closely....[at where this thread is] you'll see even new names/definitions of forum sections, ie.  "Wincustomize Talk".

And I did NOT say "every skinner is a gamer", I said people are/can be both.

So, does anyone know what needs to modded to stop a scout pausing when it enters a gravity well?

..be.. 

I counted 13 game threads on the recent posts list. 6 from 'everything else' and 7 that have been here all along. Way too many IMO, even from us. Consider the fact that when you have the recent posts list on your screen, only about 16 posts fit before you have to scroll down.  and people are bumping those game threads all the time, it forces more important things down the list.

Even though the powers that be here think that it's no big deal, it makes coming here and wading through all that to get to the good stuff... well, not so much fun. 

When I first came to WC, I read the forums avidly, was impressed by all the people helping one another with skinning issues, discussing things that were relevant to customization in some way, and it made me comfortable here, knowing that if I had an issue when I started skinning that I could come here for help. There were only a couple game threads then, and a few threads that were just plain silly, but even those were started (and continued) by people I was beginning to be familiar with. I have since 'trained my eye' to ignore those in the hunt for better threads, but now we have doubled the number of them here.

I realize that this is not going to change the decision that has been made, but I was not happy by the change when it was implemented and it makes the forums much less enjoyable for me.

You know, the solution to having off-topic threads not 'dominate' with frequent responses is to actually have more activity on the SKINNING threads.

My inane "People will hit me, but..." was a direct response to a [then] drop off of forum activity specific to skinning/anything at all.

The fact off-topic threads seem to predominate is testament to skinning's ennui.

Yet when someone posts a few threads re a new Gadget/Widget proggy there's almost a heart-attack of horror....not to mention other recent accusations of 'spam'.

It's skinning threads on a skinning site, for heaven's sake....

Oh...and I need to add....

Of ALL the threads on the full first page of "Recent Posts" at this moment...there is ONLY ONE thread [of ANY KIND] whose last commenter is NOT a Wincustomize.com 'regular' [but likely gamer].

ONE.

off with their heads

Well said Xiandi, Id have said exactly the same thing if I wasn't so DAMN LAZY !!!

Anyway, as I see it, the origin of the post or poster is neither here nor there, It's the utter number of senseless game posts and the incessant bumping of them that is ruining this forum. It's slowly changing WC from a skinning site into a garbled pile of nonsense.

If the powers that be don't see it, well, nothing more to be said, but to me, If it's forcing me to come here less and less.... and less.., I'm sure it has the same effect on many others.

i couldnt have said it better myself. I feel exactly the same.

I thought the idea of having separate categories was so that people could navigate to their topic of interest... and that the 'General' section was for just that... general items that do not belong in the categories, 

Nope, it ain't that hard, and if I can navigate to what I want to read... well it ain't rocket science.

ditto for me for Vamps, Vstyler, and Xiandi. I stopped hanging out here so much myself. Nothing useful here anymore. Seems like just a bunch of co-dependent people starting stupid games cuz they're bored. Big woop.     

P.S. - can't even get a "Misc. Icons" tab on the front page.                     --- Ace --

One freakin' week! Count 'em, one! That's how long those game threads from other forums have been resurrected for. Beyond that it's game threads that were started on here by Wincustomizers. As has been stated again and again throughout this thread, they are in a subforum that is appropriate for that content, and the people that play them have the right to do so. If they are constantly bumping other threads off the front page, that says more about the interest being shown for the other threads vs the game threads, which has also been stated in this thread. It requires nothing more than a few mouse clicks to go looking for the content you want to see.