I myself use Start11. Everything else just has too many problems.

As for complaining about a timeframe for Windowblinds 11.

It's been this way forever when a new major version of Windows is released. You already know the answer.. it will be done when it's done.

I too have been around as long as you Phoon, and I understand what you're saying, but it doesn't mean I have to like it, granted, nothing has/will change, but, we can still keep asking.       

The answer could be as simple as: "We don't know!" I could live with that. But nothing is close to... oh, well...

Huh?

And rather accurate.

We have a basic roadmap for all the products but it is often subject to what MS does with Windows - especially when Win10 and 11 will compete against themselves for the foreseeable future. 

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

Thank you, Sean! Not what we all was hoping for, I guess, but very understandable considering the development status of Windows 11.

This is probably easier to understand for the people that are running start 11 on the latest DEV build. By all means Microsoft is not staying still with how their UI behaves. The good news is that I have been seeing reports that Windows 11 build 22h2 is considered completed and should stop changing finally. Only stability updates should be released for that build. For those that are wondering 22h2 stands for the 20"22" yearly build and h2 stands for the quarter it will be released i.e. 2nd / summer.

The tricky part I wonder how Stardock is going to get passed is how they handle the next Windows 11 DEV build that may be started in a month or 2. Windows 11 build 23h2 should enter the DEV build as 22h2 exits to the Beta channel. Would it be easier to calibrate everything for the 22h2 build and completely ignore the DEV channel once 23h2 enters and state that software is not compatible with that build until closer to 2023?

They most certainly are not...

Start11 has a pretty big update in the oven (testing it today) and we are excited to share it with you all soon...

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

I definitely can not wait to try that update. From Brad's twitter posts I have seen some much needed functionality returning to the taskbar such as never combined tabs. This is definitely going to make a lot of people happy once it is done cooking.

Perhaps having your on taskbar will help circumvent Microsoft's indecision on how a taskbar is supposed to function and allow you to move forward on other projects such windowblinds 11? In any case I am looking forward to seeing this big update.  

I'm hoping that once Microsoft has finished making Windows 11 perfect , perhaps Stardock will upgrade the "Package Builder" portion of IconPackager 10 and then I can go crazy building Iconpackages for Windows 11   

-- Ace --

Personally I think Stardock should rebuild SKS/WB 10 to update it, and remove all the redundant elements. I also think they should address all the bugs before trying to build for a new OS. I absolutely despise when companies abandon products for the shiny new one before fixing what's broken.

  In a way it's a slap in the face to all the loyal customers who've been spending hundreds, if not thousands of dollars over years paying for updates. Just think about all the money you've spent on yearly update fees, and what do you get? You get a program that no longer functions as it originally did, and you're left with a shell of it's former self.

  With each new update they remove more, and more options for creativity, and leave us with bog-standard "business class clean" elements that can't be altered as intended. Hell, just look at how SKS looks now, compared to how it looked in SKS 6/7. Even the interface is drab, and boring.

  If I wanted safe, and sterile I'd go to the hospital, lol. Skinners have always had the mindset to  break convention, and shake things up with creative, and even outlandish designs. Most of us not only love to customize things to our liking, but the very word "default" makes us want to curl our top lips, and shake our heads in disgust. Pretty soon we'll have to settle for changing the color of a rectangle because the ability to actually skin will be replaced with colored tiles meant for mobile phones. Oh wait, it's already happening, lol.

The Start11 update I was referring to:

https://forums.stardock.com/510777/start11-115-beta-feedback-thread

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

Thanks Sean, Just downloaded it

I really like the direction you took on the taskbar. Some of the alternative's resort to a hacked on taskbar that is really just a version of Windows 10's taskbar. Where Start 11 shines, it feels like a more like the modern Windows 11 taskbar that has the highly demanded "never combined tabs" incorporated. This is good because I believe most people prefer the look of Windows 11 in general and are only wanting more functionality. This seems to be the exact approach that has been taken here. Nicely done!

Neil's team put in a metric ton of work on it.  He never disappoints.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

The question you should all be asking is...

"What is the Windows 11 Development Status"?

Programs are easy to adapt/revise for a new OS [mostly].

Shell enhancements for a new OS are impossible to 'revise' until the Shell is actually finished being messed with by Microsoft....